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Police concerns over Cumbrian pub supervisor role dismissed

by Cumbria Crack
31/05/2024
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A pub has been allowed to transfer a key role for the business despite objections from the police.

The Black Lion in Durdar, south of Carlisle, asked Cumberland Council for approval to name Mark Charles Winter as the designated premises supervisor.

The application was heard by the authority’s licensing sub-committee on Wednesday.

PC Heidi Underwood, of Cumbria Police, told the committee she felt Mr Winter was stretching himself too thin as he was also named as the designated premises supervisor a number of other premises in Carlisle including Bar 32, Secret and The MadHatter.

However, when committee chairwoman Jeanette Whalen (Yewdale, Labour), asked if there was a limit on the number of premises that one person could be the designated premises supervisor, she was told by a council officer that there was not.

PC Underwood said that the person in the role was meant to be a central point of contact for a licensed premises and that Cumbria police had serious concerns that Mr Winter would not be able to fulfil the licencing objectives for the Black Lion, three miles from Carlisle city centre where his other businesses were located.

She told the committee that there had been a lack of co-operation by Mr Winter in providing CCTV footage but he said this had been because the system would not allow him to upload it and it was now available on a memory stick.

Mr Winter told members that when he lived in the Barnsley area he had been the designated premises supervisor for eight venues and he had since moved on from The MadHatter.

He added: “The Black Lion hasn’t had any major incidents at all. I’ve owned that business since November 18.”

The council officer told members that, when it came to running his own businesses, Mr Winter ran them efficiently and added: “I think he runs a tight ship.”

Councillor Whalen said: “This matter concerns the objection from Cumbria Constabulary to the application to vary the licence for the Black Lion pub to specify Mr Winter as a designated premises supervisor.

“The sub-committee today has considered the application and heard from the council’s licencing officers, the applicant and from a representative from Cumbria Constabulary.

“Having had regard to the provisions of the licensing act, the national guidance, the local licensing policy and the four licensing objectives the sub-committee have today decided to dismiss the objection for the application to specify a designated premises supervisor and grant the application.

“The reasons for this are the sub-committee are satisfied that the licensing objectives will not be undermined by the applicant taking on this role.

“The sub-committee are satisfied that you will have sufficient measures in place to uphold the four licensing objectives.”

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